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Info-Hams Digest            Sun, 21 Nov 93       Volume 93 : Issue 1370

Today's Topics:
                   Cross-band 2m/220mhz repeaters?
                         New "pizza" policy?
                    Using modified HT in emergency

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Date: 19 Nov 1993 18:40:53 GMT
From: usc!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!agate!spool.mu.edu!olivea!news.bbn.com!news.bbn.com![e-mail]
Subject: Cross-band 2m/220mhz repeaters?
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Kevin Anderson -7325) writes:

   As a Novice I get access to 1.25m.  I understand in
   some cities there are repeaters linked between 2m and
   1.25m.

   How many cities and where?  I'm curious.....


Not a lot of help for you, but one such repeater is KA1DT/R on 224.28,
cross-linked to 147.045 in Nashua, NH.

 /JBL
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Nets: [e-mail]  |  "GO TO JAIL.  Go directly to jail. Do not pass
POTS: [phone]  |  Go.  Do not collect $200."
KD1ON (@KB4N.NH.USA) |           -- Parker Brothers

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Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1993 02:35:06 GMT
From: usc!howland.reston.ans.net!darwin.sura.net!gatekeeper.es.dupont.com!esds01.es.dupont.com![e-mail]
Subject: New "pizza" policy?
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, David Van Nuys <[e-mail]> writes:
>Can anyone tell me where I can get the new, more relaxed policy on using
>autopatch for ordering pizzas etc?
>
>Please send e-mail.  Thanks.
>
>David
>AB6XR

 I got my copy from Compuserve in the HAMNET Forum.


73, Tom WI3P  [e-mail]  or [e-mail]

"Shutup and sit down you moron!"...Ben Stern

*** MY EMPLOYER DOESN'T SPEAK FOR ME NOR I FOR THEM  ****

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Date: 18 Nov 1993 02:15:23 GMT
From: destroyer!news1.oakland.edu!vela.acs.oakland.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Using modified HT in emergency
To: [e-mail]

 I just wanted to point out one *little* detail you all
        seem to be missing:

 Using any means available does not mean you can make the
 "means" available to you at all times!

 The "radio friend" in this thread did exactally as I or
        anyone else would have under the circumstances, but
        it doesnt make it legal to have the modified radio in the
        first place.

        If this were to go to court, the amateur would *probably*
        be found innocent of unlawful transmission, and get hung
        out to dry on the illegal radio.

        wx8l Sean.

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Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1993 18:21:07 GMT
From: news.Hawaii.Edu!uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>
Subject : Re: Miss Manners in the Novice Sub-bands?

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Gary Coffman) writes:
>
>Since the data modes are *restricted by regulation* to the data portions
>of the HF bands, erronously called the CW portions, while the CW operators
                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Really? When did that change? I guess us CW ops have been intruding upon
the data folks, then. So sorry!

Jeff NH6IL

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Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1993 16:45:46 GMT
From: news.cerf.net!pagesat!netsys!agate!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!emory!kd4nc!ke4zv![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>
Reply-To : [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject : Re: Morse as a language (was Re: Miss Manners in the Novice Sub-bands?)

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jeff Herman) writes:
>Gary, you got lost somewhere in reading my post; I think of Morse as
>an aural language - I write nothing down. I hear, not individual letters,
>but entire words. There is no mechanical skill involved. Now, with that
>in mind, go back and reread what I said - it will make much more sense to
>you. And keep practicing to improve your code speed; once you hit 20
>you'll agree it is a language (then you won't have to waste so much of
>your time with anti-code articles).  [Note the follow-up]


Sorry, it's you who didn't read what I said. The process by which you
"think of Morse as an aural language" is flawed because you're lumping
the mechanical process of the operant conditioned neural nets that decode
characters with the higher functions that combine characters to form words.
Just as phonomes aren't language, neither are the sounds you hear in Morse
that encode alphanumeric characters. Like reading, once you condition the
mechanisms of pattern recognition in your brain, you don't consciously
"spell out" each word. You "just see them" or "just hear them" in your mind.
But that doesn't make the alphabet a language, nor does it make the Morse
encodings of the alphabet language. Both pattern recognition mechanisms
are just conditioned mechanisms that lie below the level of language
interpretation in the higher brain centers. So Morse is no different in
principle than any other alphabetic encoding of language, such as this
printed screen. In this case, conditioned visual pattern recognizers
identify the shapes that form the letter encodings, a totally mechanical
process, and your mind then assembles those decoded symbols as words.

Note I've redirected followup back here since this isn't a policy issue.
It's a technical issue.

Gary
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Gary Coffman KE4ZV          | Where my job's going,  | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems | I don't know. It might | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             | wind up in Mexico.     | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |          -NAFTA Blues  |

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